In this episode of the Major League Real Estate Podcast, hosts Nathan Sosa and Matt Hamilton sit down with Patrick Grimes, founder of Passive Investing Mastery and a former robotics engineer turned full-time real estate syndicator and alternative investment strategist.
Patrick joins the conversation from Hawaii to share how he transitioned from designing automation systems for companies like Tesla and Lockheed Martin to building a portfolio spanning 2,000+ multifamily units and pioneering investments in litigation finance, first-position debt, and other non-correlated asset classes.
From Engineering to Real Estate: The Early Lessons
Patrick’s journey began in the world of mechanical engineering and robotics. After winning an engineering competition and landing a high-paying job, he started looking for ways to multiply his income. A mentor advised him to invest his earnings into alternative assets, advice that, while poorly timed before the subprime mortgage crisis, planted the seed for his future.
The 2008 crash was a humbling experience. “I toppled down and skinned my knee pretty bad,” Patrick recalls. But it taught him the importance of diversification, risk management, and investing beyond the stock market.
Mastering the “Tax Trifecta”
One of the biggest turning points in Patrick’s journey was discovering what he calls the Tax Trifecta:
- S-Corporation Optimization: Restructuring his income to pay himself a lean W-2 salary and take advantage of business deductions.
- R&D Tax Credits: Leveraging the tax code to offset much of his earned income.
- Bonus Depreciation: Accelerating deductions to shelter active and passive income.
This combination dramatically reduced Patrick’s tax burden to the point where he “paid virtually nothing” for several years. Once he documented enough hours to qualify for Real Estate Professional (REP) status, things changed even more dramatically.
Scaling Up: From BRRRR to 2,000+ Units
After years of grinding as a single-family investor, Patrick realized the limitations of DIY. The pivot to multifamily syndications and partnerships was key.
- He transitioned from doing everything himself to co-GP’ing large-scale apartment deals.
- Partnering allowed him to scale beyond the time and capital constraints of solo investing
- He applied his engineering skill set, due diligence, cross-functional collaboration, and financial modeling to multifamily underwriting and execution.
“Partnering is when scale really happens,” Patrick explains. “When I wasn’t trading away time from my family and hobbies, I could grow faster and smarter.”
Diversifying with Non-Correlated Alternatives
Today, Patrick’s portfolio extends well beyond apartments. He’s passionate about non-correlated alternatives, investments that don’t move with traditional market cycles. These include:
- Litigation Finance: Providing funding for legal cases in exchange for a share of settlements.
- First-Position Debt Funds: Lending to operators in both real estate and legal sectors.
- Medical and Essential Services: Industries that remain stable through economic downturns.
“True legacy wealth comes from diversification,” Patrick says. “Stocks, oil, real estate, they all move with the same cycles. But legal services, medical, and education? They don’t.”
“Who, Not How”: The Mindset Shift for Real Wealth
One of Patrick’s most powerful lessons is the importance of partnering over DIY. He warns against what he calls the “Ruse of the Guru”, the belief that you must master every asset class yourself to achieve financial freedom.
- “It’s statistically impossible to become an expert in 20 different industries,” he explains.
- “The wealthy don’t do everything themselves. They partner with specialists and allocate capital strategically.”
This mindset shift, popularized in the book Who Not How, is at the heart of building scalable wealth. It’s also how Patrick reclaimed his time, balanced family life, and avoided burnout.
Advanced Tax Strategies: Capital Gains and 1033 Exchanges
Patrick also shares advanced tax insights investors rarely hear about:
- Prepaid Forward Contracts: Structuring returns as capital gains (often ~20%) instead of ordinary income (~38%).
- 1033 Exchanges: A little-known tool for deferring casualty gains from insurance payouts after disasters, with years to redeploy funds, unlike the tight deadlines of a 1031.
“Most people don’t even know 1033 exchanges exist,” Patrick notes. “But they can be a massive tool for compounding wealth tax-efficiently.”
Final Thoughts: Building a Portfolio That Lasts
Patrick’s story is more than an investing roadmap. It’s a mindset shift. From losing everything in 2008 to mastering tax strategy and scaling a diversified, recession-resistant portfolio, his journey shows that true financial freedom isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing it smarter.
Listen to the full episode of the Major League Real Estate Podcast to dive deeper into tax strategy, syndication, non-correlated alts, and how to invest like the ultra-wealthy, without sacrificing your time.
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